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The Devil Dogs
This article originally appeared in NFH #18 in the winter of 1990.

Without any apparent warning the Devil Dogs have sprung out of nowhere. Well, maybe it's hyperbole to call New York nowhere, but there sure as hell wasn't any indication that there was going to be a record as good as The Devil Dogs coming out of the Big Apple in the near term. Produced by Billy Childish of Thee Mighty Caesars, the lp features buckets of loud, fat racy guitars and songs so dripping with brilliant power pop hooks you'll think you've died and gone straight to heaven. There's echoes of the balls-out style of Johnny Thunders, the Ramones, and the Sex Pistols, but there's also a stronger pop feel than these bands, a combination that results in a record that rates as one of the ten best of the year with no reservations.

Given the fantastic quality of the end product, it's strange to hear the gyrations that went into the making of the record. But the road through the studio was torturous...the band leaving the studio wasn't even the same band as the one that went in. They started out as the Rat Bastards, and played under that name for about a year. They recorded under that name in November of 1988, but decided they weren't happy with the results so the material wasn't released. In March of 1989 they went in for a second try, and half way through the Rat Bastards were completely through; a guitar player was jettisoned and his tracks on four songs were erased and redone as a new three piece, the Devil Dogs, emerged from the studio in April clutching the scorching master tapes for The Devil Dogs.

The Devil Dogs are definitely not the stereotype New York band; they trash all regard for coolness and looks and go for the sweat and the beer. And this makes them a lonely bunch in Gotham. There's only a few other bands that they can feel any connection with. "The Raunch Hands, we like them", says Steve Baise, the bass player. "Those guys are good. But it's not really the same style. It's rocking, but it's not the same." This is somewhat akin to acknowledging that piranha and minnows are both fish. Guitar player Andy Gortler joins in: "Well, there's not that many bands here that you'd want to play with; everyone's kind of hung up on themselves. We're just having a good time partying and rocking and these guys are doing their shit."

"The closest thing to what we do that's really going on here is like a 60s garage punk scene that goes on. But I'm not sure if it's dead or not. It's definitely dying, I know that. But they're still around. And we'll play with those bands if there's a show, but we don't really consider ourselves too much part of it."

"Yeah", adds Steve, "'cos we don't get along with these people. They're all fucking dicks! We're out there having a great time partying our asses off, rocking their balls off, and they're in the shops getting their hair done, or in the antique shops buying clothes."

"They don't like to see you go up there and have a good time", says Andy.

That earlier Rat Bastards recording session was also produced by Billy Childish, and he wrote three songs for the band which all appear on The Devil Dogs. Because the Rat Bastards didn't release their recordings, Childish subsequently used two of the songs, "Pussywhipped" and "Suck The Dog" on records by Thee Mighty Caesars. But the Devil Dogs absolutely overpower the versions done by the Caesars. "Well, that's us and that's them...that's their style and the sound that they get on record", says Andy, humbly.

Steve, who is 27, played in other bands before the Rat Bastards, but nothing he regards as worth mentioning. He met up with Andy, who is 22, when the Rat Bastards formed two years ago. The third member is Paul Corio, who plays drums and wasn't present for the interview. Steve says they've hit upon the recipe for great music. "There's that rock and roll energy that formulates when the zippers unzip."

The Devil Dogs at present are limited to playing the east coast. "We want to get out", says Steve, "but it's like somebody says "come to California and play, we can guarantee you $150", you know. It's a little more expensive than that. When we were the Rat Bastards we drove to Detroit, and they told us it would be for nothing, and we just went, you know. But you can't keep doing that."

"Yeah, we've been doing stuff like that for a while", adds Andy, "but now we're just going to go where it's going to be good to go. We're not going to go just on any kind of whims or nothing. 'Cos now we've got the record."

Europe seems a natural place for the band to try, since they drool at the sort of rocket fueled guitar rock the Devil Dogs specialize in. Reviews there have been positive and there have been several label inquiries. This fall they were due to have a split record with the Raunch Hands on the Swedish Gaga Goodies label, and there's also due to be a record with Dave Laing's Dog Meat record label in Australia. And Andy says that this time the stuff is going to be real kick ass, not holding anything back. I gulp nervously at the concept that The Devil Dogs represents some form of holding back. The new stuff is going to be harder and faster? "Yeah", says Steve. "Flies unzipped all the way!"

The new material will also be available in the US on an expanded CD of The Devil Dogs, which was due by the end of 1989. It's supposed to consist of a number of covers plus some originals, the covers being included because the band didn't want to use all their originals on records that weren't going to be released at home.

Talk turns to Johnny Thunders and the fact that he's touring on the West Coast as we speak. Andy sounds surprised: "He made it out there? One of our friends is roadying for him, and we heard he got busted going across the border into Canada. Johnny was unconscious, and they questioned that (laughs). There was a couple of months here when you could see him every week at this place for free, and he'd just get up and make a fool of himself."

"But that's cool", says Steve. "I mean we still go, after ten years. It's always up in the air...I mean is he going to go on, what's he going to be like? Is he going to die tonight?"

The Devil Dogs themselves play mostly at places like Maxwell's in Hoboken, the Continental Divide, Wah Wah Hut, or the Strip. They like Maxwell's best. "They treat you good there", says Andy. From my limited knowledge of New York they seem like a natural for CBGBs, but though they'd like to play there, they haven't. "It's a total showcase and you go there to get the record companies", Steve says. "And we've already got one..we've got the best. My friends are on big label, and they're getting dicked over."

I mentioned that I had been there five years ago and that I thought the place was real divey, so it surprised me to hear that it was regarded as a showcase club. "It's always been really divey", replies Andy. "And as soon as the hardcore a couple of years ago set in it really went down. Not that they're trying to make it any better, but it's not that bad anymore."

There's not much hardcore in New York anymore? "No", Andy says, "there's tons of it. That's like the biggest thing here pretty much. It's really big. It used to be when they first started doing hardcore matinees at CBGBs it was like a hundred people or a hundred fifty people, that was a big day. Now you drive past there on a Sunday afternoon and it's like there's people on every corner, tons and tons of people everywhere."

"No hair", moans Steve.

"No hair", Andy concurs. "Well, they mix with that heavy metal crowd; speed metal and thrash metal."

Despite their sense of musical isolation, the Devil Dogs seem to be able to support a reasonable crowd, although they say that it's hit or miss. They've never really had a bad turnout, but they have taken a number of gigs primarily as a means to stay sharp that haven't been real big. But when they play what they regard as a significant show where they work to get a crowd, they usually get a big turnout. They also have a connection with Portland, Maine, where they've played a number of gigs. That's about a six hour drive one way for them, so they make it into a party weekend when they go up. The fact that few other bands make it up there probably makes the crowds that much more appreciative. Some other New York bands also make the trip, but, says Steve, "There's a lot of bands that are big, but most of the bands around here, they suck. The shit they're putting out is garbage."

There's not a lot out there that the Devil Dogs think is worth paying attention to. Pressed to name other bands they liked, Steve and Andy both cleared their throats repeatedly and mumbled a lot before they finally could come up with the names of The Lazy Cowgirls and the Hard-Ons. "We concentrate on what we're doing", Steve says. "I mean it's nice to know what else is going on, but if something really was going on, we would know."

If there's one thing the Devil Dogs are all about, it's a good time. They're going to have fun, and if you're not too hung up to join in, they'll be glad to have you along. Just don't try nodding out while you're partying with them; one of their favorite pastimes is getting friends stone drunk and then dressing them up in women's clothing. At which point they grab the Polaroid and produce some embarrassing photos for when you wake up. "But you know", Andy says, "we are kind of wacky guys, but we are also very suave. Very tender, very gentle."

To which I reply: "So track six on side one is you guys at your most tender?"

"Which track is that? Oh, that's "Suck The Dog"", says Steve. "Yeah that's us."

"We're sensitive, you know", deadpans Andy.

Not to be taken in, I allow as how I've been detecting that.

"We take a lot of heat for it", laughs Steve.

Since there are other even more sensitive types out there I wonder if they've ever been trashed in a review for "Suck The Dog". "Well that's one of the ones that Billy wrote anyway", says Andy, "so if anybody hassled us, we'd just send it to him."

Steve: "All complaints to Billy Childish, Box..."

"I'm not responsible, all right?", Andy states flatly.

I believe him.